The "Groyper Wars" Against Turning Point, USA: A Primer For Minnesotans

Apparently I'm destined to explain for the moment a number of interesting cultural and political developments on the Right that largely passes by the insular political and cultural world of Minnesota. It's not just that Minnesota media are hard left and not too bright, although that does go a long way. Mostly, I think, it's the anesthetizing incuriosity of Minnesotans, especially among Republicans. As long as they can get to work without too much congestion, have satisfactory bowel movements and move on to burgers and craft beers, all is right. Oh, don't forget sports ball of any kind, including the retarded and ghey "sport" of soccer. "Scarves up!" is their mantra. How effete, how soy.

If buglife had a state, it would be Minnesota.

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Turning Point, USA is an AstroTurf organization that pretends to be a grassroots group representing conservative college students. In actuality, it's a top down, donor driven Potemkin village, with a board of directors that looks more like a retirement village in Naples, Florida than any college campus.

Charlie Kirk, its head, was fiercely Never Trump even after the Emperor got the nomination and went on to become the President. He's scrubbed all of those sentiments as best he could from social media but the internet is forever. Like Mark Levin, hate to break it to you.

In this he resembles the fraud Candace Owens who's twice spoken, for a five figure fee, at the Center of the American Experiment. Alpha News routinely churns out poorly written Boomer bait (socialism is bad!) by a perky woman who is a Turning Point USA "brand ambassador," which is snapped up by Boomers who refuse to understand the meme "If you only knew how bad things really are."

One such young person who does know is Nick Fuentes and he took the fight to the latest incarnation of Conservative, Inc., which exists to keep people from obtaining that very same awareness. Ashley St. Clair, another cheesy "brand ambassador," was fired and depersoned by Turning Point simply for appearing in a photo with him. But TPUSA stands for free speech. Right.

You should follow him at @NickJFuentes and subscribe to his YouTube channel America First here.

Kirk recently went on a nationwide "Culture War" on various campuses that dealt in anything but culture. Turning Point is a tool of the ruling class, the Uniparty, the entrenched interests that have done nothing for the American people but make their lives worse. It was sabotaged spectacularly & hilariously by Fuentes and his army of groypers. Wat mean?

Groypers are an iteration of the the Pepe meme, which the Left tried mightily to characterize as some sort of white supremacist neo-Nazi image but failed spectacularly. No less than the Hong Kong freedom fighters adopted Pepe because they understood the true power of the meme, not the gloss attempted to be put upon it by the Cathedral.

Groypers are fat frogs, some say toads, whose signature feature is their fingers interlaced under their chin. That's it Boomers; it's a pose. They became associated with Fuentes because many of the Twitter accounts who supported him had Groyper-type avatars in their handles. See? It isn't that hard to understand The Current Year. I routinely follow men and women a third my age on Twitter. If you want to know the future of the Right, they are it.

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Young men who asked the hard questions, the tough questions, of Charlie Kirk and his fake conservative minstrel show of "Culture War" won the war and most of the battles. Kirk peddles a fake conservative narrative of accommodation to the Left where we win by losing. He represents the kind of "conservative" activism that lets drag queens talk about sodomy to our young children in public libraries. 

Kirk pretends to hate identity politics when a white person thinks his culture has merit all the while holding gatherings celebrating blacks, hispanics and females. Fuentes has no problem with that but wonders why white people aren't accorded the same treatment. After all, majority white countries are being flooded by those from countries whose people could never have founded and built the United States. They're only here to cash in on our success and we're punished if we notice.

Other targets besides the eunuch Kirk are Ben Shapiro (who called for the ethnic cleansing of Israel but you're the anti-semite if you bring that up!) and Dan Crenshaw. This is by no means an exhaustive list. 

One young man, a rosary wrapped around one of his hands, became something of a Groyper superstar when he asked Kirk, who beside him was Rob Smith, a black gay dude who served in the military, how promoting anal intercourse helped conservatives win the culture war. The point wasn't to bash gays; nobody cares who does what with whom as long as you leave children and animals out of it. Even then we seem to be losing that battle.

Smith himself was a Never Trumper and has transformed himself into a mouthpiece for the Right. The grifters always go to where the money is to be had.

The groyper kids are having none of it. God bless them, praise Kek.

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Fuentes was fiercely attacked, maliciously maligned, by the moneyed interests on the Right. Called an anti-semite, a white supremacist and generally slandered, he is none of those things. As he himself noted, he got fairer treatment from the Left press than the Right. This is, by now, to be expected.

To the contrary, he understands that America is, apparently, set on an irreversible path of multiculturalism and is asking the hard & honest questions that Boomers and their marionettes like Turning Point refuse to continence. He's also Christian, having the temerity to ask how a country founded by Christians can survive such a demographic suicide. 

That's the key: demographic replacement is real but still denied by these types of groups even while they celebrate others' ethnic identity, just not white peoples'. Legal immigration, not illegal, is the dagger to the heart of traditional America. At the rate of one million per year, these people vote democrat over republican by something like 80/20. You'll be punished if you notice. 

I'd put it this way: how did the greatest nation on earth, founded, created and built by white British and Dutch protestants, put itself in a position to be overrun by people from the Third World who demonstrably can't build for themselves anything similar? Why is our immigration system rigged to let in relatives of Ilhan Omar, she who hates us, hates white people in particular (jealousy) instead of people who won't commit crimes, won't go on welfare and will assimilate to share our Western Christian values? 

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Enter the heroine.

Michelle Malkin stood up for Fuentes, putting paid to the whores of Turning Point, USA and so many other grifting organizations that exist to fleece the none too bright Boomer base. Socialism is bad! This very weekend Charlie Kirk is being paid to appear at David Horowitz's "Restoration Weekend." Somewhere, along with me, Diana West is laughing. 

Malkin said at UCLA last week:

"Tonight, my remarks are directed at the young men and women of this country who identify as America First conservatives. How many proud Americans standing up for American freedom and sovereignty do we have in the room?

I know what it’s like to be in your shoes, feeling marginalized on a crazy college campus for standing up for your pro-life, pro-gun, pro-free speech, pro-Western values and fighting for your country. I also have two teenagers who have been through experiences like you have, sitting in classrooms where abject stupidity and emotionalism have replaced logic, reason, and the pursuit of truth.

That is why I will not be using my platform and my position to insult you, marginalize you, and shout you down. Just a couple of days ago here on this very campus, former Fox News hostess Kimberly Guilfoyle sneered that young conservative men in MAGA hats asking inconvenient questions were rude losers who could only get dates online and who were embarrassing their parents.

Another YAF speaker, Ben Shapiro, repeatedly denigrated an entire movement of young men who watch a YouTuber named Nick Fuentes and are seeking answers to tough questions about where America is headed as masturbating losers in their basements who share memes. As a mom with brilliant right-thinking kids who, yes, live in my basement, and, yes, share memes, I found these obsessive references to young people’s dating lives and habits by prominent conservative media personalities much older than their targets to be tellingly defensive and touchy. Also: creepy.

Here’s my message to the new generation of America Firsters exposing the big lies of the anti-American open borders establishment and its controlled opposition operatives: If I was your mom, I’d be proud as hell.

I want you to know that you are not alone. It’s important for you to know that not everyone who belongs to generations older than you has sat idly by while America rotted from the inside. Not all Gen Xers and Boomers are mindlessly stupefied by the bread and circuses entertainment dished out by so-called conservative media. Not all of us have occupied ourselves solely with “owning libs” and reciting clunky MAGA rap anthems while America crumbles."

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And there you have it, Minnesota, another primer. My last was about Bronze Age Pervert and his seminal book "Bronze Age Mindset." I can only do so much and I'm happy to do so. 

The rest is up to you. 

Bronze Age Pervert: A Primer For Minnesotans

Interesting cultural and intellectual developments usually pass Minnesota by. You could even say the more interesting the less likely they are to penetrate what passes for the political and cultural elites here. I used to think it was just xenophobia but this obdurateness is something more, something willful. I've long since stopped being curious about the antecedents of this mediocrity on steroids: it just is, like winter.

It was only because I brought Bronze Age Pervert (BAP), who tweets as @BronzeAgeMantis (this is your cue to follow him) to the attention of my friend, the Right Honourable Roger Chamberlain, that local media first learned of BAP and were, naturally for them, flummoxed. I haven't lived in all 50 states but something tells me our local media are among the laziest of them. Certainly their work product wouldn't disabuse you of that notion.

In the cringe but aptly named political newsletter "Hot Dish," J Patrick Cooligan deigned to take notice of a retweet by Chamberlain (found by him on my TL) and wondered "Wat mean?" Only Cooligan wouldn't know the nomenclature of BAP to appreciate the "Wat mean?" But that's what he did, even if he didn't know it. And he didn't.

So what does a lazy member of the lazy Minnesota media do? Turn to the discredited house organ of neoliberalism, Politico, to understand this strange new phenomenon, that somehow pierced the thick membrane of Minnesota isolationism, for an explanation. The result was enough to make a cat laugh.

It was then that I knew I had to perform yet another uncompensated public service task (this sets me apart from all the MNGOPe grifters, of which there are legion) and explain to people too often entranced by burgers and craft beers, sports ball, the weather, the opening of yet another buglife apartment complex and the generally quotidian that makes modern life all but slow motion suicide, who is Bronze Age Pervert. Let's begin.

BAM or Bronze Age Mindset

By now, Bronze Age Pervert is inseparable from his signature book, Bronze Age Mindset. You should buy it. BAP is anonymous. You may have noticed that the Cathedral is currently waging war on people who remain anonymous online, all in the interests of "transparency" and "accountability." Accountable to whom? Transparent to whom? This is but a thinly veiled attempt to squash dissenting narratives, those that challenge the usual neoliberal orthodoxes.

BAP's Twitter account is littered with pictures of gorgeous landscapes and equally gorgeous young, buff men, resulting in the deadly, albeit hilarious, hashtag #ShowPhysiq or similar iterations, deployed most effectively against fat aging Boomers. These are the kind of tweets that would make Democrat Senate member Scott Dibble want to masturbate or put in a butt plug with an anonymous stranger on WhatsApp and then claim victim status when his degeneracy was made public. The usual suspects rallied to his defense. They always do. Weimerica. 

Bronze Age Pervert is the acid rain that washes away this defilement of straight male friendship and camaraderie, that celebrates the masculine without the homoeroticism. Look for the dominant culture to get him wrong because of its own deformities and celebrated pathologies.

Same sex marriage is a joke, like Caitlyn Jenner and "transgender" claimants: neither are what they insist to be. And we all know it. Most of us are bludgeoned into a silent acquiesce. Not me.

"Still, it moves."

BAM Breaks Through

There can be no doubt that we're talking about BAM because Michael Anton, he of the "Flight 93 Election" article, decided to review the book in The Claremont Review of Books. This was seminal. One could hardly believe it and, if they'd been following BAP previously, were rightly astonished. This article is the first of two you have to read if you want to be up to speed. 

What caught the observant eye was that Anton had been given the book by Curtis Yarvin, who pens under the name Moldbug and from which the concept of the Cathedral originated, at a dinner party. It probably won't mean much to the republican lobbyists here, by definition not a bright lot, but Anton having dinner with Moldbug? That alone was something in itself. 

Anton, having first tried to read BAM and stopped, was encouraged to try again by his former White House colleague Darren Beattie and did. His resulting review has set everything in motion, including this column and the ignorance and deliberate misrepresentation by our lazy media. 

Neti, Neti: Not This, Not That

Neti, neti is the classical Hindu definition of God: not this, not that. So too it can be said of "Bronze Age Mindset."

I don't think the book is a Rorschach test but I suppose in some ways it could be taken as such, especially by Boomers who don't understand the justified resentment of them, bordering on hatred, of the under 30 set. I do understand because I follow closely those under thirty on social media, primarily Twitter; it isn't difficult if your mind isn't ossified. I saw the term "apostate Boomer" applied on Twitter to Steve Sailer and thought "This will do."

BAP responded to Anton in due course at The American Mind with a succinct, deadly and accurately titled piece "America's Delusional Elite Is Done." This is the second article you have to read if you want a basic grasp on what is currently roiling the intellectual Right.

I think BAP has the better argument here but I'm at pains to praise Anton for having the courage to review BAM and try to come to terms with what it represents, which, fundamentally, is almost everything Boomers and their corrupt, grifting "Conservative, Inc." has peddled to the credulous and the weak as authentic right wing politics.

If the Biblical admonishment that "by their fruits ye shall know them," means anything, then a quick peak in our public libraries showcasing drag queens reading state sponsored sodomy tales to our youngest children tells us everything we need to know.

If you want a cheat sheet to the action, I don't think I'm doing violence to either side's argument when I put it this way: Anton acknowledges the critique (how could he not?) but falls back to a defensive counter-argument of "what will you build in its place?" In the final analysis this simply won't do because the conservative status quo has preserved nothing, allowed much to be destroyed [press esc to go back] and offers no plausible way forward to triumph.

Managing the decline and simpering acquiescence to cultural decay and collapse is really, once the high minded Boomer language is stripped away, all that is offered.

BAP essentially laughs at this posturing born out of intellectual & cultural poverty, out of a desperate necessity and throws the present back in the face of those who fail to see how much has already been lost. "If you only knew how bad things really are." That's a meme, Boomers.

Here is a crucial passage from BAP's response to Anton that I think wins the argument:

"The left completely abandoned Americanism in the 1960's; at this point they've also abandoned biological reality. Vitalism is all that is left against their demented biological Leninism. Encouraging health, normality, and physical nobility against their celebration of deformity, obesity, and sexual catamitism must be one of the basic functions of conservatism in our time. It is one of the reasons my message is powerful among many with the left's gospel of wretchedness: what is your plan to take that on?"

Anton, of course, has no plan, in fact you might say he didn't actually realize the problem before BAP and he's no slouch.

If you're a Minnesota republican Boomer who thinks the fraudulent Turning Point USA, and like minded grifter groups, are the berries, if you still don't get the point of the passage quoted above, search for images of Aisha Gomez and Jay Xiong. 

Then, if you're still clueless, I'm afraid the best that you can hope for is not being smothered to death in your nursing home staffed by people who look like them. 

Extra Credit

Anton responded to BAP's response, called a sur reply (also spelled surreply and sur-reply. Aren't you here to learn?) Unfortunately, his title gives the cringe game away: "Which way, Jester Man?" When name calling is in the title, you know they're out of arguments. 

The editors of The American Mind had the good sense and courage to run "Conservatism In The Bronze Age." I recommend you take a look at it and click on the link of the various essays there that might interest you. 

I thought Second City Bureaucrat, @CityBureaucrat on Twitter, had the best reply and you get the sense of this from his title: "Why Not Actually Engage With Bronze Age Mindset?" The subtitle leaves no doubt: "Ideologues seem incapable of doing so without resorting to name-calling."

Bronze Age Mindset has said he's replying to Anton in due course, as of this writing yet published. 

There you are, Minnesota, roughly up to speed. 

Wat Mean?

This column is only a primer, not a complete or thorough exegesis of the Bronze Age Pervert phenomenon. That it exists shows, I think, how uninteresting politics have become in Minnesota, a feature not a bug. More than three years ago I wrote "Do Minnesota Republicans Believe In Anything?" Then, as now, I think the answer remains the same: not much really, paychecks mostly, chair rearrangement on the decks of the Titanic, arrested high school egos vying for prominence on social media. "It's all so tiresome." Another meme, Boomers. Wake up.

The indictment that Bronze Age Pervert brings to the desiccated Conservative, Inc. applies with even more force to the small potatoes of Minnesota republican politics. 

Does anyone realistically think they'll win another statewide election in the foreseeable future? Not if they're honest or, for many of the grifters, sober. 

So what the great Joe Sobran said of Conservative, Inc., now manifested by the pathetic, lobbyist run CPAC, or Boomer donors making younger types dance to the tune of nationalist self-destruction, Turning Point, USA or a local "activist think tank" that throws a courageous (read honest) member overboard, can well be said here:

"It was all a game, or a way of making a living."

And I haven't even talked about no nut November.